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From Dreaming to Doing: Our Tokyo Trip on a Budget with Points and Miles!

From Dreaming to Doing: Our Tokyo Trip on a Budget with Points and Miles!

From Dreaming to Doing: Our Tokyo Trip on a Budget with Points and Miles!

 

We haven’t talked much about the value of points and miles yet, but I would love to tell you about this trip Alyssa and I are currently on. As I write this article, I’m sitting on 777-300 in business class, flying ANA from Chicago O'Hare to Narita, Japan. This is not a humblebrag; instead, we want to explain how easy it can be to get outstanding deals through points and miles if done correctly.

We decided to plan a quick trip to Japan a few months ago after searching Google.com/flights and finding which airline flew from our home airport (MSP) to Tokyo and we discovered that Delta had a direct flight. After pulling the flight information up, we realized Delta wanted 300k SkyMiles per person plus $51 for taxes and fees for each roundtrip to book that flight or $3,442.00 per person. So, we decided to check all of Delta’s partners. (See our Mastering the Skies post for more details after finding the same flight on Virgin Atlantic and AirFrance). We decided to go with the best deal, AirFrance (Flying Blue Miles), at 81k Miles per person roundtrip and $54.85 for taxes and fees each. Click the picture below for a video of the process.

We booked this by transferring our American Express membership rewards points to Flying Blue through the transfer program.

After transferring the points, we booked a non-stop flight from Minneapolis to Haneda, Japan. Even though we booked this with Flying Blue Miles (AirFrance), the flight was operated by Delta, which works out great for us because Alyssa and I currently have Platinum status with Delta, which gets us upgraded to Delta comfort almost instantly as long as there are seats available. Delta Comfort gets you more legroom for those who don't know. Alyssa is 6’1; she needs extra legroom, priority boarding, and free drinks, which we love. This may sound ridiculous, but we hoped this would be our backup flight.

*Pro-Tip: Book any award flight that fits your travel itinerary and is a good value for your points and miles. “Check the details,” but typically, you can cancel them with minimal fees.

A week later, I looked around for business class seats to and from Japan around the exact dates of our Delta flight. Sure enough, I found a flight on the American Airlines website operated through Japan Airlines. It was from Haneda to Chicago Ohare for 60k AA miles and $44.55. I decided to book this flight after comparing American Airlines to Japan Airlines' other alliance partners. If we had purchased this ticket in cash, it would have cost us $4690.57 per person. See the picture of the Japan Airline screenshot below.

We always look at what each point's value is at redemption.  To calculate a point value, you take the cash price minus any taxes and fees, then divide it by the number of points. In this case, we had a value of 7.7 cents per point. That’s awesome!!!!  Typically, a good value is somewhere in the ballpark of 2 cents per point.

At this point (I know it sounds ridiculous), we had our roundtrip booked with Delta Comfort and a one-way business class booked home with Japan Airlines…We still needed to find a flight to Tokyo in order to cancel our roundtrip flight with Delta. We couldn't just cancel one leg of our round-trip itinerary without canceling the whole flight. I knew that ANA operated out of Japan, so I started looking into their flight schedule from Chicago O'Hare to Haneda or Narita. After figuring out that they operated one flight daily to both airports and were opening business class award availability about seven days before the travel date, we set up a few flight notifications through Expert Flyer.

Eight days before our scheduled Delta flight, I found a flight on ANA through their partner airline, United. (YAY!)

*Pro-Tip: Award availability typically opens up around 9 a.m. in the local time of that airline.  Also, if you find availability for a specific flight through an alliance partner, all their partners should have access to the same award flight.

Once I found availability on United, I decided to call Virgin Atlantic and book the flight. But wait, Virgin Atlantic isn’t an alliance partner of ANA, but they currently have a partnership.  I know it’s confusing and weird, but it is a great thing. It is one of the best values out there. After the phone call, we booked a Virgin Atlantic flight operated by ANA for 47,500 miles and $203 ea. Unfortunately, you can’t book ANA flights on the Virgin Atlantic website. So a phone call was necessary, which took about thirty-five minutes from start to finish. This flight was in business class from Chicago O'Hare to Narita, Japan, with a cash value of $8997.20 per person. Wow!!!

After booking both business class flights, we canceled our FlyingBlue (Delta) flight for $56 each.

After the cancelation fee and taxes, we still received 12.45 cents per mile for both flights. Again, value is calculated by taking the cash price minus all the taxes and fees, divided by the number of points.

Total cost for 2 tickets: $27,375.54

What we paid:

  • 215,000 points
  • $495.10 in taxes and fees
  • Plus $112.00 in order to cancel our Delta Flight

 

These flights were the best value we have ever received from our points, and this trip was amazing!

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Mastering the Skies: How Learning About Airline Alliances Can Transform Your Travel Experience

Mastering the Skies: How Learning About Airline Alliances Can Transform Your Travel Experience

Star Alliance with 26 members
Aegean Airlines
Air Canada
Air China
Air India
Air New Zealand
Air Nippon Airways
Asiana
Austrian Airlines
Avianca
Brussels Airlines
Cope Airlines
Croatia Airlines
EgyptAir
Ethiopian Airlines
EVA Air
LOT Polish Airlines
Lufthansa
Scandinavian Airlines (SAS)
Shenzhen Airlines
Singapore Airlines
South African Airways
Swiss Airlines
TAP Portugal
Thai Airways
Turkish Airways
United Airlines
SkyTeam with 19 members

Aeroflot
Aerolíneas Argentinas
Aeromexico
AirEuropa
Air France
Alitalia
China Airlines
China Eastern
Czech Airlines
Delta
Garuda Indonesia
Kenya Airways
KLM
Korean Air
MEA
Saudia
Tarom
Vietnam Airlines
XiamenAir

OneWorld with 14 members
Alaska Airlines
American Airlines
British Airways
Cathay Pacific
Finnair
Iberia
Japan Airlines
Malaysia Airlines
Qantas
Qatar
Royal Air Maroc
Royal Jordanian
S7 Airlines
SriLankan

Knowing airline alliances is essential. The three major US airlines (Delta, United, and American) are all in different alliances. They partner by sharing route responsibilities, customer relations, and resources. Sometimes, there is the potential to get the same flight for fewer points when booking through a partner airline. Who doesn’t want to get more for less?

United and American Airlines websites make searching for award availability through their alliance partners easy by letting you search by week or month. Starting on either of these sites is a great way to get a snapshot of available award flights within their alliance. *Pro-Tip: Always search for one-way flights and combine them into roundtrip flights.

There are some limitations, but this is a great way to learn how to search for awards. Here is an example search with American Airlines. The steps will be similar on United’s page. *Pro-Tip: You must be part of their loyalty program to search for award availability on most airline websites. Don’t worry; they’re all free to sign up.

The example we’re searching is Los Angeles (LAX) to Hong Kong (HKG) on November 3, 2023. When searching, make sure to click Redeem miles and One-way.

As you can see, no award flights are available, but here is where we can click the calendar to look at a monthly snapshot of available award flights.

On the calendar search page, you can choose the number of stops you prefer and the class you want to search. For example, we will continue with nonstop only and economy class.

Here is where flexibility can pay off. We changed our flight search to November 5, 2023, because of the availability. This flight is flown with Cathay Pacific but booked through American Airlines. 

We now know this flight with Cathay Pacific is a saver award because airlines only share saver awards with their alliance partners. *Pro-Tip: All airlines only have a couple of saver award tickets in First/Business class and a couple in economy per flight. 

Knowing this, we can now check all other alliance partners depending on what transfer points we want to use. See the Alliance drop downs for guidance. 

Because there is a limited number of saver award tickets on each flight, it may be difficult to find availability in a typical travel booking timeframe. You'll increase your odds of finding availability if you plan on traveling within 15 days. If you’re like me and don’t have that kind of flexibility, try to book 300 days out or more. 

If you have questions or would like help booking through Alliance partners and don’t want to do the work. Contact us about our Concierge Services; we can do it for you.

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